, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
That's good to hear.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
So, you're not ruling out legislation completely in the future at all?
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Thanks, Laura. Questions now from James Evans.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
That's brilliant. So, we can help clarify that, and I just think it highlights the importance of transparency of data, really, doesn't it, so that we can all see that? Laura.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Absolutely, yes.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Brilliant, thank you. We can share it—absolutely.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
We could clarify that. I understand that it was a percentage and that was the percentage that we understand it to be. But we will clarify that afterwards, if that's helpful.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
We really appreciate that. Laura.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Brilliant, thank you for clarifying that.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Just to clarify, is that just within children's social services, or is that within social services more generally—within children's services?
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
And we did recognise that within our recommendation around that not every case was the same; that was built in our thought, because we are very much aware of how we have to look at that, and we couldn't just have an arbitrary figure because that would be very…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
And just before you come back in, Laura—I'll bring James in—just to say the comparison that we as a committee meant wasn't in terms of comparing social workers like for like with nurses. Our point of comparison was around the workforce shortages, agency staff…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Thank you. Laura.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Heledd.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Thanks, Ken. Questions now from Laura Jones. Laura.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Okay. Back to Ken.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
I'll just bring James in very quickly, Ken, and, then, come back to you.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Yes, sorry, Ken. Go on.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Ken, I'll just bring Albert in, sorry, briefly.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Okay, well, we will go on to those points later. We've got some questions now from Ken Skates; I realise that time is moving on. Ken.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
I think we'll be coming to that point later, I think. There will probably be an opportunity for that later. And if we don't, please make sure that you get to say that at the end in case Members don't get to that.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Thank you, Albert. And just to say that our report focused on the radical reform as a manifesto commitment and that is why we didn't look specifically at the 'eliminate profit' or at the universal basic income pilot in detail. We obviously did recognise that…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Shall I just bring Albert in?
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Diolch, Deputy Minister, and that's really good for us to have that on record. Sorry, Heledd. Sorry, I didn't see you there. Sorry. Heledd.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform - Ministerial scrutiny session
Thank you. That's really good to put on the record about the value of our report, which all Members here feel very passionately about after speaking to those children and young people. I can assure you we'll also be taking a keen interest in the work on…
