, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
That's okay. Not at all. No, that's fine. I can repeat it. That's fine.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. I've got one more question, actually, just around—. We've been told that the schoolteachers' pay and conditions document may need to be changed as a result of the Bill. Is this something that you were aware of?
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. And just finally, the impact assessment sets out the estimated annual cost of the Bill, which ranges from £15 million to £19 million. The Minister has said that the Bill is simply not affordable. How would you respond to that?
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Janet. Just around the financing of the Bill, just some final questions. One's following up on a question that Heledd mentioned earlier, actually, just around the challenge about finding supply teachers and the concerns around potentially requiring…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Michael.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Sorry, Janet. Manon's coming in.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thanks, Ken. Janet Finch-Saunders now. Janet.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Diolch, Heledd. We've got some questions from Ken Skates.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. Back to Heledd.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
I'll just bring in Janet Finch-Saunders before we move on, Heledd. Janet.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Absolutely.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
You are, yes.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
It's stopped now, so that's okay. It's a strange noise in the building—sorry, Heledd.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. Thank you, James. We've got some questions now from Heledd Fychan.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you. We've got some questions now from James Evans. James.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
No, absolutely.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Brilliant. Thank you. That's really helpful. The explanatory memorandum says that the mental health and well-being benefits of the Bill could reduce demands on child and adolescent mental health services in the near future. We heard some concerns from Public…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
That's brilliant, thank you. We’ve received some evidence from health bodies that it is difficult to distinguish the direct impact of residential outdoor education as opposed to outdoor learning experiences. Perhaps you could explain a little bit about the…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
—that we had to do this. But we did have a consultation and a group of people, parents—we heard directly from them as well, just to put that on record as well. But we know that you've done a lot of work with young people, which we're always glad to hear…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. Obviously, it's something that we put a lot of focus on in terms of speaking to young people as well, but it's just in terms of the time—
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you. You've just touched on the letter, as you said, that you sent to us as well, and the letter that the Minister had put forward. You've seen the written evidence and the oral evidence that we've had. Is there anything that you would like to say on…
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Could you repeat that, Ken? You weren't very clear.
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Hold on, Ken—[Inaudible.]
, Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Residential Outdoor Education (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9
Thank you, Sam. I'll just bring in Ken Skates.
