, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Mike.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
So, continuing healthcare is a package of NHS-funded support that is provided to adults aged 18 and over, and the policy intent behind the Bill has focused on these adults because this is where the demand for direct payment in lieu of the provision of NHS…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Because what we're talking about in terms of the timescale is when certain things will come into force, but within the Bill there will be flexibility, as I said at the outset—there will be flexibility for for-profit providers to continue where that is…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I was just going to say that I absolutely appreciate the need for certainty, and I'm fully anticipating having to account for this in the Senedd and keeping the social care sector fully apprised of where we're going and our implementation and timetable and…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Sorry, Sam.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay. Thank you for that couple of questions, Sam. I'll bring Mike in, the legal officer, to deal with that, if I may. Thank you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Yes, indeed; you're quite right. There's a couple of things here. So, restricting the extraction of profit from social care services provided to children—we do need primary legislation to do that. We're also placing new duties on local authorities to prepare…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
The draft Bill now—. What we consulted on was the policy development, and what we considered was that, actually, having the policy development consulted on was more important than, if you like, consulting on the draft Bill, because it's the policy development…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Nice try. Nice try.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Yes, okay. Anthony.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I guess from my perspective, Alun, that would be the ideal scenario, absolutely, but I think, as Anthony was saying, this was something that came up in the development of the policy, and it is very specific around the local authorities making supplementary…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay, so—. Yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Yes, absolutely. We'll publish a summary of all the impacts. We're continuing to have discussions as well with the Information Commissioner's Office because it is a complex area, as you say, but we will publish a summary of the impacts when those assessments…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'll just see if Mike wanted to say—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'll ask Anthony to say a bit more about the impact assessments, yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Yes, we're satisfied that we've looked at the requirements of the convention. We've undertaken integrated impact assessments and those impacts are identified in chapter 9 of the explanatory memorandum. The human rights implications of the provisions of the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
It was certainly one of the considerations when we looked at what the alternatives to the current system would be, but there was no fair way that we could identify a minimum or a maximum level of profit. It's either for profit or it's not, because you then…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Thank you for that further question. What we've had to do is to carefully consider the impact of the Bill's provisions both on providers and on looked-after children. We dealt with the issue of looked-after children in the answer to your previous question. We…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Sure. Thank you, Adam, for that question. I think, if we look at article 8, the rights of looked-after children are protected in the Bill's transitional arrangements, which enable for-profit providers to continue to accommodate children in settled placements…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay, yes, I got that. Sorry, Adam.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Is it channel 1? Okay, let's try again. I'm not hearing anything at all at the moment.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Sorry, Chair, I'm not hearing the translation. Apologies, Adam. I'm not hearing the translation, sorry. It was working when we tested it at the beginning.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Thank you, Chair, for that question. As I said when I introduced the Bill, I'm satisfied that the provisions do fall within the legislative competence of the Senedd, subject to Minister of the Crown consent, which I will come on to in a moment. That's the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'm Dawn Bowden. I'm the Minister for Social Care.
, Health and Social Care Committee
General scrutiny session with the Minister for Social Care
Diolch yn fawr.
