, Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister
Warm and fed this winter
Thank you. We'll now go into questions straight away and the first question will be from Llyr Gruffydd.
, Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister
Warm and fed this winter
For the first session, we'll focus on 'warm and fed this winter', because obviously we are very concerned about the challenges facing many communities and families as the winter months are now upon us. With that in mind, First Minister, can I welcome you to…
, Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister
Introductions, apologies and substitutions
Good morning. Can I welcome Members and the public to this meeting of the Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister? Can I remind Members that the meeting is bilingual? If you require simultaneous translation from Welsh to English, that's available on…
, Plenary
Questions to the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd
Finally, question 11, Llyr Gruffydd.
, Reform Bill Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting, and from the meeting on 7 December 2023
Are Members now content to move under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting, and, technically at this point in time, next week's meeting on 7 December? Because it should be in private. It's scheduled as a…
, Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
I'll give them out. Because they're not in the public domain, I'd rather give them out to you afterwards. But we have had a response, late yesterday. With that in mind—. We will talk about that, Darren, and you can have a view then.
, Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
We had a response late yesterday afternoon. It's not, therefore, in the papers, but will be in the papers for the next meeting. But we'll discuss that afterwards.
, Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
A question, Darren.
, Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
Yes, I'll come back to you. So, are we all happy to note?
, Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
For Members now, we'll move on to item 3 on the agenda, which is papers to note. There are two papers. The first one is the letter to the First Minister and the leader of Plaid Cymru regarding the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill, which was inviting…
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
I'm going to stop him now, because I gave him one question and he ended up with four. [Laughter.] I'm conscious our witnesses do have to go to another meeting. So, we'll end there. Thank you very much for your time this morning. You will know that you will…
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
So, Darren will have the last question.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Darren, I'm going to come back to you for the last question if you want it, because I'm conscious of your time and—
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Final set of questions, then, from Jane.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Heledd.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
I need to move on. I'll come back to you, if we've got time, Darren. Sarah.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Jane.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Okay. I'll bring Jane in now. On one of the concerns, you mentioned trend. You've had 2021-22, 2022-23, and we're now in 2023-24, so when do you think you'll be able to work out a trend based upon—and this is post COVID—the statistics as to how working…
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
The first one? Have you done analysis of the spend on 2022-23?
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
So, the last one said 'no'.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Okay. I have two other points I want to raise. At the beginning, in response to Darren Millar's question, you indicated that 2022-23 was a baseline—somewhere to start. It was important to have that baseline. Two questions on that: have you been able to look…
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
And therefore that will be used for the seventh Senedd determination.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
Can I add two questions to that? Has that work also included the possibility of an increase, so that you're doing it and you, therefore, understand the implications it will have if Senedd reform does take place. So, it's not just about the current…
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
I'm referring to the board's costs.
, Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd
I'll go on to item 2, which is the evidence session we have today. Can I welcome members of the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd to the committee? Elizabeth Haywood, who is chair of the independent remuneration board, and Daniel Hurford, who is…