13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
So, just for clarity purposes: the Government has not engaged with UK Government in relation to competency issues, because it doesn't believe—. You know, you believe that you make the decision and then, if it's challenged later down the line, that would be…
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
One final one on this one, before we move on.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
We will move on, Darren.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
—but there are areas of concern, and competency is a clear area of concern that we need to explore.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
We are where we are, Minister, and we will scrutinise it—you don't have to worry about it, we will scrutinise it—
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
Yes, I think we are—
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
We will be moving on to that, Minister.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
I won't ask you to speculate, but you recognise that is a strong possibility.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
So, you recognise that there is a likelihood that this Bill will end up in the Supreme Court because of that difference of opinion.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
Can I clarify the situation? You said there's a difference of opinion. Is there now, then, a view that perhaps that difference of opinion may only be settled by the Supreme Court?
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
I can assure you we will be taking evidence.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
Minister, I think the point is we're not challenging your decision on effectiveness. What we are questioning is whether you are actually using a reserved matter to deliver that, and that's the question of competency.
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
I would probably question the 'how its Members are elected'. You're talking about a difference of—. The how Members are elected is the process of election, not necessarily the process of presenting candidates. So, I might question that point myself in the…
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
But can I—? On that point, Minister, that special purpose committee highlighted the fact that it was questionable and that if it were included in the original Bill—the Senedd reform Bill, which we know has gone to Stage 3 now—the whole Bill could be…
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
We appreciate that it has been through the processes. There's clearly a difference of opinion, and with lawyers there's always a difference of opinion, but there's a difference of opinion in relation to the—not just the purpose, but the reserved matters the…
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
Thank you for that. We will go into questions, and I'm glad Anna is here, because clearly the first question we will obviously want to ask about is the competence issue. Minister, yesterday, in your statement, you made it clear that you believed that it was…
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill: Evidence session with the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip
We'll move on to our substantive content this morning, which is the scrutiny of the Minister in charge of the Bill. Can I welcome Jane Hutt to the meeting this morning? Would you like to introduce your officials for the record, please?
13 March 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Good morning. Can I welcome Members and the public to this morning's meeting of the Reform Bill Committee, where we will now begin our scrutiny of the Senedd Cymru (Electoral Candidate Lists) Bill? Before we go into our agenda item, there are just a couple of…
13 March 2024 , Plenary
90-second Statements
Thank you, Tassia, for everything.
13 March 2024 , Plenary
90-second Statements
Diolch, Llywydd. On Sunday, at 12.19 p.m., at the age of just 32, Tassia Haines passed away after a fierce eight-year journey with primary and secondary breast cancer. All here have either met Tassia, or have, at the very least, received the many lobbying…
29 February 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of this meeting, and for item 1 at the meeting on 13 March 2024
We now move on to item 3, which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to exclude the public for the remainder of this morning's meeting and for item 1 of the meeting scheduled for 13 March 2024. Are Members content to do so? I see they are. Therefore, we…
29 February 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Papers to Note
We now move on to item 2, papers to note. Members will have received these papers in readiness for the Stage 1 debate, but we will now need to officially note them. They are the response from the Standards of Conduct Committee regarding the Stage 1 report…
29 February 2024 , Reform Bill Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest
Good morning. Can I welcome members of the committee and the public to this morning's meeting of the Reform Bill Committee? We are here this morning to do some work and discuss our forward work programme in relation to a second Bill that will be coming…
6 February 2024 , Plenary
Debate: The Steel Industry in Wales
Llywydd, last Friday, I met with the chief executive officer at Tata Steel, Mr T.V. Narendran, to discuss the actions being taken by the company following the announcement by Tata to close down the two blast furnaces, and, effectively, close steel…
6 February 2024 , Plenary
Debate: The Steel Industry in Wales
Thank you, Paul. I'm listening very carefully to what you're saying, and I'm very pleased that you agree with the continuation of blast furnaces until the right time. But do you think it was a mistake by the UK Government, when it did the deal, by not putting…