, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 4
It was just further to what you said, John, because there's a presumption as well that just in larger sites, to put everybody together on one site and that everybody's the same, and that's the issue as well, isn't it? Whereas that doesn't necessarily work…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 4
I agree on new councillor training.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 4
Okay. So, there's evidence that local planning authorities often highlight a mismatch between where Gypsy, Roma, Traveller communities would like to live and where guidance says sites should be developed to meet Welsh Government standards. From the evidence…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 4
Good afternoon, everyone. I just want to ask you some questions about the current legislative and policy framework in Wales. Do you think it supports the provision of culturally appropriate sites for Gypsy, Roma and Traveller communities? And how do you think…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Papers to note
We can discuss this in the private session, if that's okay. But thank you for raising it publicly. Do any other committee members have anything they'd like to raise on those papers at the moment? No. We're okay. Jayne, are you okay? Thank you. We are going to…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Papers to note
If we move on to item 5, the papers to note. We've got paper 1, which is a letter from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution to the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee in relation to the implications of the UK…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you. We're speaking to the Welsh Local Government Association later as well, aren't we, so that's good. Thank you, Jayne. And thank you to the witnesses for coming along today. A transcript will be sent to you for checking, so if you'd like to…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you. Dafydd.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Carl, would you like to come in now?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. I saw Pam nodding then. Shall we go to Pam?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Welsh Government do make funding available as well, don't they, for new sites. It seems to be, from the earlier evidence sessions, that the political will behind it as well could be an issue when allocating new sites. We're just going to move on to…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
For defence.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Dafydd, when you say 'target hardening of sites', you mean unauthorised sites that Travellers might be using.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Yes. I think we're okay for time.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Great, thank you. Sorry, Joel.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you, Dafydd. Can I just come in a minute, Joel? Carl, you mentioned a five-step approach that you do. Would you be able to send us that so that we could have a look at that? We'd be interested to know more.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you. So, we're going to move on to Joel now. He's going to ask questions on the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2022.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Thank you, Mabon. We're going to move on now to Sam.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay, we're back in public session now. So, Mabon, would you ask your question again now that we've got the translation sorted? Thank you.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
I'm just going to pause a moment while we sort out the translation for everybody, okay? Just a moment. Thank you.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Earlier we heard that it's Gypsy, Roma, Traveller History Month, and the topic is 'No place like home' or something, wasn't it, which I didn't know enough about, and I'm going to make sure that I do. It's really, really important, isn't it, to try and…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Thanks. Are there in each authority, are there many—? Do you have a good relationship with the liaison officers in each authority as well? Okay. And that's an important link?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Cross-border as well. Okay. Thank you. I'll bring in Dafydd.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Do you think there needs to be better regional collaboration as well?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Inquiry into the provision of sites for Gypsy, Roma and Travellers: evidence session 3
Okay. Do you think that it's not the legislation, but the fact that it's not maybe being carried out properly, then, and making sure that there are the transient sites in place?