, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
And the—. I'm grateful to you for that. And my presumption is, my reading of the Bill is, that this would provide powers for Welsh Government to undertake this process, and I presume that any consequence to that consideration by Welsh Government would come to…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
I'm not sure I'm capable of that. In terms of—. Is your position, Counsel General, that this is a Bill that has created a problem, rather than solving a problem, that the retained EU law is on the statute book, and my understanding is that it will stay on the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
Yes, fine.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
—does that affect the legality of the instrument, if it hasn't been through the correct procedure?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
Can I ask—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
—a Government could have provided us with, but we can discuss it.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Look, it's certainly not without precedent, but it's the worst possible explanation—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
In that case, it might be useful, Chair, if the Minister were to write to us with his impressions of that place, when he has the opportunity to.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
I wasn't going to run through all the stuff in the commission's report, but one of the things that really stood out, of course, was what John Thomas said about that. I believe you're visiting the Cardiff civil justice centre today during this visit. I don't…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
I'm sure that's not the case.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
My experience is that if the structures don't work, nothing works, frankly, if I'm quite honest with you. You need a form of governance in the United Kingdom, and a constitutional settlement in the United Kingdom, that enables those of us who are Members of…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
Perhaps it would be useful, then—and I'm grateful to you for that—that we actually establish a structure between the Welsh Government and the United Kingdom Government to work on some of these matters. Because at the moment, we seem to be trying to manage…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
Part of that is the UK Government recognising that change is required, because making the UK work has to be a joint endeavour, and not us doing as we're told.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
And we don't have that at the moment, really.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
No, I think we had a good working relationship, quite frankly. There wasn't a personal issue in that I thought they were bad people doing bad things. But I felt that if we are going to make the United Kingdom work, then we've got to have coherent structures…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
I welcome that. I don't have any issue with Ministers in the UK Government. I worked with David Gauke and Rory Stewart at the time.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
As an elected representative of people in Wales, it doesn't feel like that, I have to say. Certainly, when I was a Minister in the Welsh Government, it didn't feel like that. It really did feel like taking my little briefcase up to London, sitting in Petty…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
Thank you. I'm interested in what you're saying about the way in which justice is administered in Wales. My experience of holding ministerial office is that it's administered especially badly, I have to say, both at a practical level—. I'm sorry I don't…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
So, why are we setting up all these different groups if it's working?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
So, why are we setting up these systems, then, if it's working?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
But you accept that it's not working at the moment.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
It's an interesting interpretation of Government. [Laughter.]
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with Lord Bellamy KC, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice: Justice in Wales
Thank you. I was interested that you didn't make it a point of principle; you said there were enormous difficulties, which is a practical issue, isn't it? It's not a point of principle. There are difficulties in doing all sorts of different things that all…
, Plenary
Voting Time
Diolch yn fawr.
, Plenary
Voting Time
Oh, come on. We've got to know why the Government can't table business.