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Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services
3. Will the Minister make a statement on how health and social care providers are working together to manage hospital discharges effectively? OQ59043
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Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
I assumed that the Demise of the Crown Act 1901 meant that all these designations changed automatically, without reference to any further legal action.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
The Irish is a better model than either the Scottish or the Welsh, but we won't go there. [Laughter.]
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
But we're asking you where you're prepared to compromise.
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I know you are.
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Well, I've just asked Peter what his red line was, and he listed the whole of the Bill. [Laughter.]
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You said you'd be prepared to amend earlier.
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I could spend a lot of time discussing this. Where's your red line, Peter?
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I like the latter goal; I'm less convinced about the former goal.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Well, that's rarely said, to be fair.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
It gives so much flexibility as to leave it almost meaningless. The example I quoted to you at the beginning of this question was on environment and environmental standards. It would enable the Government to argue that the nitrate vulnerable zones regulations…
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
I think the primary goal is fine, as it happens, and I think the Government miss out, because they don't have that in their agriculture Bill, as it happens. So, I don't disagree with you on that, but the secondary goal—
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
It's a goal; it's not a strategy.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Let me stop you there, because this is on the face of the Bill; it's primary legislation. So, it's difficult to argue that you need these goals on the face of the Bill and then to argue that they're not the important element; the important element is the…
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
In an earlier answer, you alluded to my critique of some of the future generations legislation, and that is because I am not convinced that by putting declaratory words on the face of a Bill, you make things happen. And I've always had real concerns with…
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you, and I very much agree with what James has just said, but we also need to examine private legislation as well.
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Cefin Campbell was there as a designated Member.
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Sorry, may I ask you a question?
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Okay.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
A discrete Bill can have great power. Look at Leo Abse and the decriminalisation of homosexuality in 1967—an enormously powerful but simple Bill.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
I didn't say 'tokenistic', I said it was discrete.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Can I stop you there? Because your colleague Paul Davies put forward—I think it might have been in the last Senedd, actually—an autism Bill, and he was talking about not dissimilar principles, pragmatic principles. And he drew on the experience of the late…
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Yes, it did, yes.
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
What about the focus?
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Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Let me say this: I don't disagree with the overall analysis, as it happens, although I would suggest that the disaster of Brexit and the trade deals that we'll be debating in the Chamber tomorrow are doing more to undermine food production in Wales than the…