, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Inter-institutional relations agreement
So, we'll move on to item 6, correspondence and notifications under the inter-institutional relations agreement, and we have just the one item this afternoon, which is correspondence from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution on the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Thank you very much for that. Do Members have any observations or comments to make? I see we do not, so we're content with that.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Item 5, instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under the relevant Standing Order, as previously considered. Item 5.1—we've just got one item on this area today—is SL(6)382, the Local Elections (Principal Areas) (Single Transferable Vote)…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
That's quite an important issue to reflect upon, and it may be something where committee does reflect. And, of course, the committee has, on a number of occasions, asked the Government to bring forward legislation under the affirmative process, so I think we…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Are Members content? I see Members are content. Affirmative resolution instruments: item 4.3SL(6)390, the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Act 2023 (Commencement No. 1) Order 2023. Now, this Act prohibits the supply of specified…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
We've had a number of reports where we've had a large number of technical reporting points over recent weeks or months, and it may be useful for us to bear that in mind the next time this happens, and speak to the Government about it. Because the reporting…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
When do you expect to have that response? Do we know?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
So, we'll move on to item 4, issues that do raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under relevant Standing Orders. Made negative resolution instruments: item 4.1 is SL(6)388, the National Health Service (Ophthalmic Services) (Wales) Regulations 2023. These…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Do Members have any comments or observations? Otherwise, I will assume that Members are content. Members are content.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Thank you very much and welcome back to this meeting of the committee. We're going to move on to item 3, which is instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. Paper 3 is a draft report—made negative resolution instruments—on…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Diolch yn fawr.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
We seem to have reached a natural break in matters, so I will bring this session to a close there. In saying that, I'm not sure that the circumstances that Luke has described would be that rare; we had a pretty chaotic session in the last Senedd, where we had…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Okay. Luke Fletcher.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Thank you very much. The Government doing something that the Senedd asks it to do would be a very novel approach. But have you got an extra five minutes, Counsel General, for us to finish the next section of questions, perhaps?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
I think you can probably hear a committee recommendation coming on here at this point. [Laughter.] James Evans wanted to ask a supplementary question here.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Thank you very much, James. Carolyn, and then Luke.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Yes. But it is novel and unusual, and it is something that, I'm sure, the committee will return to. James Evans.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Well, it is.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
I'm sure there isn't. But it isn't two thirds of Members asking this Senedd to do something; it's two thirds of Members asking another Senedd to do something—a subsequent Senedd—and that, I think, is where the difficulty arises.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Notwithstanding the issues involved here, I think many of us will share the misgivings that Luke Fletcher has outlined there, that a Government is asking the Senedd to impose duties on the Llywydd, but those duties will be on the next Llywydd and the next…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Thank you very much for that. We're making good progress here, Counsel General. I'm going to ask Luke Fletcher to continue our questions, and then bring in James Evans and Carolyn Thomas.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Which is what we were hoping you would say and help us with. Can I ask you a question? I feel something of a fraud asking this question, considering the conversations that you and I, Counsel General, have had, and other Members have had, over the past few…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
And that's exactly the point that I wanted to press: 'which is consequent to the scope and the purpose of the legislation'. For example, you could easily see a circumstance where, for the 96, 'delete 9, insert 8' or 'delete 9, insert 11' could easily be seen…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Thank you. Before returning to Luke Fletcher and James Evans, can I ask you to confirm a couple of things, Counsel General? It refers back to some of the matters you'd expect us to ask you as a committee. You have section 20 powers to make consequential…
