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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
But I want to understand what your vision is.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
Okay. But it’s not a means of people accessing other artefacts from Cardiff that wouldn’t be specifically related to north Wales. So, let’s use some of the ceramics, for example, which you have there, or some of the impressionists, which are not related to…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
I just want to clarify, because I'm not clear where you're going. So, the national museum in the north is going to be the slate museum with all the issues around the world heritage site, which is going to be enhanced by relevant parts of the collections from…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
So, just going back to the answer, you will be taking items from Cardiff—I've got no issue with this, by the way—but you'll be taking items from Cardiff that are related to slate and related in a historical way to north Wales, and putting them in Llanberis…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
In Llanberis.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
But in the previous answer, you said that you were going to create some sort of space there.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
Yes, yes, but I was thinking about your answer to the previous question.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
It's not the history of the part of north Wales where you live, Llyr, and it's not the history of large parts of north Wales. So, it confuses me, therefore, that we would invest in this concept and then try to do something else there as well.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
Yes, and we had a presentation from Dafydd Wigley about the world heritage site, and I have to say it was inspirational. It was first class, both the presentation and the vision that went alongside it. I actually enjoyed it. It was the first time I'd visited…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
The committee visited the National Slate Museum in Llanberis, I was going to say a year ago, was it? It could have been a bit longer, actually.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
What's the difference?
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
I presume you're involved in it.
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
I'm looking here at some of the proposals that you've been making, and I'm interested, following on from the question from Hefin and the answer, in terms of taking the museum forward. It goes back to the first question answered, actually, and some of the…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
I'm glad to hear that, and I'm grateful to you. Diolch iti. In terms of where you are today, we have had this issue. So, what actions are you taking? What is your analysis of the internal culture of the museum and where the museum is today? And where are you…
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Scrutiny of Museum Wales - Autumn 2023
Yes. I'm surprised by the answer that Ms Richardson gave to an earlier question, actually. I'm not sure that it's entirely credible to argue that these matters were unknown to staff at the museum. I'm not sure that that's an entirely credible argument to try…
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
Yes, that's really interesting.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
No, that's absolutely fine.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
Okay.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
Emotion is good, by the way.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
It is—it is great, and I think it's a really important thing.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
Okay. I'm grateful to you for that, because I think it's important to create that structure of accountability. But also, then, going to the earlier question on opera and what have you, for me, as a Member for Blaenau Gwent, I want to know, 'How does this…
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
Granularity.
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
It would be useful to have a conversation in March or April, in that case. I think sometimes you are in a difficult situation, if I'm quite honest, because it is quite difficult to say, 'This is what we want to do.' The earlier question from Tom Giffard…
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
I like targets. [Laughter.]
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Scrutiny of the Arts Council of Wales - Autumn 2023
That's a very narrow or short period of time.
