, Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Welsh Government international relations: Scrutiny session with the First Minister of Wales
Yes, I just wanted to complete the conversation on EU matters before moving on to Ireland. The previous First Minister was—without wishing to put words in his mouth—not persuaded, shall we say, of the need to deliver and develop a specific EU strategy. I was…
, Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Welsh Government international relations: Scrutiny session with the First Minister of Wales
I'm grateful to you, First Minister. You mentioned my visit to the United States;' I would like, through you, to thank Andrew and his team for the help and support they gave me there. And you mentioned the work of Ministers; it's as individual Members as…
, Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Welsh Government international relations: Scrutiny session with the First Minister of Wales
No, no, Tredegar. New Tredegar is in Rhymney.
, Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Welsh Government international relations: Scrutiny session with the First Minister of Wales
Thank you. I very much like what you've been saying, First Minister. I think that that very positive, outward-looking approach is really important. I will say that myself and the Chair had dinner with the EU ambassador last week, and we had long…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Well, we need to debate it first, don't we?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Can I say, Adam makes the point about Order in Council, and I presume—and I'm looking at the lawyers in the room now to confirm this—that is how we would make an amendment to the Government of Wales legislation to allow competence to be amended? But one of…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Yes.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Can I say, Adam, I don't think that is the Government responding to a committee, because my memory is that the Reform Bill Committee didn't say that either in their report? What I think that is is the Government recognising that they're in a difficult…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
It's a matter for the Senedd not the Government to determine how scrutiny takes place, and the First Minister, I would've thought, would be very well advised to give evidence to this committee on areas that are within his responsibilities. I'm thinking…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Yes, but it's a wider issue.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
But I think it's something that we should not forget.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Twelve technical reporting points is an awful lot in a single regulation. The Government's accepted most of them—well, all of them, isn't it, really?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Yes. Look, I'm very happy to have a wider conversation and a wider debate about these things. Perhaps, given the time constraints, Chair, we could ask the Minister to write to the committee outlining some of those, how she would define 'public goods' in this…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay. Let me give you an example of perhaps what I mean. There is a new section—I think it's 6A(3)(b)—inserted into the 2016 Act, and that's about what is a public good. Now, 'public good' is a term that's used in many different sectors to mean different…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'm grateful to you for that, but I think the committee has a somewhat nuanced view, shall we say, about the balance that we are seeing in different pieces of legislation at the moment, in terms of what is on the face of the Bill and, increasingly, where…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Thank you. This Bill contains a wide range of delegated powers. I presume, Minister, you are content—since you published the Bill, I presume you are, but let's put it on the record—that the Bill strikes the right balance between what is on the face of the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Can I come in on that very quickly before Adam comes in? That means we now have three considerable pieces of legislation passed within a decade or so, or a few decades, managing this area of law. Now, it's reasonable to have all sorts of different pieces of…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
An excellent piece of lawyering there. Excellent. [Laughter.] Thank you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Give me a deadline. Give me a deadline.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Every time you answer a question I think of another. [Laughter.] Look, I've got no issue with that, but if the deadline is by the completion of Stage 1 scrutiny, that, by its very nature, precludes scrutiny of it, so it needs to be, this information needs to…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay. There's always a balance to be struck, isn't there, between policy development, and when you feel you've reached a particular stage where you can introduce legislation, and then continuing to develop the legislative proposals as a consequence of the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'm grateful to you for that, Minister. I'm also interested as to why you're doing that now and not prior to introduction.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay. In terms of data protection, one of the issues that some of us have been concerned about, in terms of wider issues—not this portfolio necessarily but wider issues about data protection, data management within Government—has been how that is controlled…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
Okay. And—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Member in charge
I'm grateful to you for that clarification. I'm very grateful to you, in fact. In terms of the development of the Bill, as you know, some of us here were victims of the Renting Homes (Wales) Act 2016, which seems to have more impact on the justice system than…
