, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 11
Prompted by the Chair, I just wanted to ask what's your view on where we can set the boundary, then, in a framework for adjudicating on deliberate deception between, for example, statements of opinion or belief, which we would want to protect as part of free…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 11
I'm interested in the arc of the development of the British constitutional principles that you alluded to earlier. Before the—. As you say, you referred to the 'good chaps' theory, or the honourable gentleman and honourable ladies period, where conventional…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 11
Right. I've got a few supplementaries, but maybe I'll cast my eye over the notes in due course. Just taking our minds back to the Boris Johnson case, isn't it, in a sense, though, still indicative of the general rule that, in a self-regulating parliament…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Introductions, apologies and substitutions
Chair, I'd like to put on record the fact that I did take part in the same workshop as Professor Blick took part in relating to this general question about legislation on deception.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Well, I think that's something that we need to explore, what powers do we have. But it's quite clear the First Minister decides the ministerial responsibilities. If she would prefer to give those responsibilities to the Deputy First Minister, then she has the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
I don't think it's acceptable, really, for the First Minister to decline our invitation, and I think that we should press the First Minister further to appear before the committee.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
The Welsh Government had its own borrowing powers, but that's a wider discussion.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I think the borrowing powers were actually abolished, not transferred. I remember it well, but—
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
A conversation to be had in future. And just to conclude my questions, a brief question: if there are to be consequential amendments—and from your previous response, there may well be—will there be an impact on the Senedd's Standing Orders? Have you had a…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Just for information, I was at the conference of state legislatures in the USA recently and the use of AI to legislate was one of the big topics of discussion there, and a number of the states had gone through a process of using artificial intelligence…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
So, we still work in an analogue world even though the technology is digital.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
May I tempt you along an even more complex path, if I may, but an interesting one, nevertheless? It is relevant to this Bill, which partly relates to accessibility and the public's understanding of the legislative process. The constitutional commission, as…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
One fundamental improvement that we've discussed in the Siambr, Counsel General, to the process of agreeing subordinate legislation would be to create a way for statutory instruments and subordinate legislation in general to be amended—so, amendable statutory…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
In going through the process that identified that error, if I may describe it as such, or that vacuum, had you identified any other possibilities in terms of improving the scrutiny process that currently exists, and had you considered any other changes that…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Certainly, I do think that would be a very useful development for us, and perhaps in the context of the Future Senedd Committee, as you've mentioned, that's the kind of new idea that I think would be very exciting to see emanating from that committee's work…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Thank you very much, Minister.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Right, okay. A question now with regard to the explanatory memorandum, which is in itself a very important document. There is a reference in the explanatory memorandum to delegated powers held by Welsh Ministers and that there is consideration given to the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
But they do retain a copy in London. Okay. Thank you very much for that. We should know these things as we are the ones who are legislating. In terms of the equivalent Act in 2019, there was a clause that set a duty for post-legislative review in that Act…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Right, right, right.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
To the national library.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
And after that, it's returned to the archive.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Mae yna un argraffedig swyddogol gyda'r sêl Gymreig ac yn y blaen, ie, ond mae hynny'n digwydd yn Llundain ar hyn o bryd gyda'r argraffydd cyffredinol.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I don't want to divert the committee too much, but out of interest, I know that in Westminster they still produce versions printed on vellum and so on. Does that happen for Welsh Acts?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
Yes. Is there any intention to shift the location in creating a King's Printer of Acts of Parliament? I know that everything is done digitally and so on, but is that a wider consideration, the location of it, beyond this Bill?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery on the Legislation (Procedure, Publication and Repeals) (Wales) Bill
I just want to ask a few technical questions to begin with, if I may. Have you received the consent of the United Kingdom Government in terms of those sections of the Bill related to the functions of the King's Printer of Acts of Parliament, which at present…
