, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 18: Review of Act (Amendments 94, 95)
I move.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 18: Review of Act (Amendments 94, 95)
I should just say very briefly that although there are two amendments in this group that relate—. In terms of the voting order under this group, I should say, which relate to the matter that we just discussed in the previous group, the disqualification…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 18: Review of Act (Amendments 94, 95)
Yes, exactly. And otherwise it will be time for the post-legislative scrutiny. The lead amendment in this group is simply to put on the face of the Bill post-legislative scrutiny. I'm a strong supporter of post-legislative scrutiny. I think it should be…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 18: Review of Act (Amendments 94, 95)
It's been a long day so—
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
Move.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
Move.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
Has it been moved?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
'Deal with' is not the same as—. The question is whether you will create an offence of deliberate deception. You're not—. I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm just—
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
Is that a commitment to reform legislation that will include the offence of deliberate deception?
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
I should just say that there are three amendments here. Amendment 125 is virtually identical to the amendment that was presented at an earlier stage, but in a different—at an earlier stage to a different Bill; you know what I mean. Amendments 126 and 128 are…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
And also the defences there are incredibly wide. It would even allow you to simply retract within a reasonable timescale and say, 'Look, okay, I got it wrong', and that would mean that the whole issue would go away. The success of this provision is not that…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
The other right under the convention that is relevant is the right to freedom of expression, under article 10. But, again, I think if we look at not just case law in the Strasbourg court, but also case law in British courts, I think it's clear that that right…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
I'd just like to touch on some of the issues that—. The Counsel General has been very generous in sharing his thoughts in terms of some of the practical and technical and legal questions that arise in this case. And in terms of competence, I'm very grateful…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
—but that's being unkind. But, I think, before getting into some of the detail, I'm very grateful for all the conversations that I've had, in all seriousness, because it has certainly developed my thinking and it's reflected in the way that the amendment has…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 17: Disqualification from being a Member of Senedd Cymru or local government (Amendments 112, 113, 10, 114, 125, 126, 128, 129)
Thank you, Chair. I sometimes feel as if I've been discussing this all my life. I first introduced a Bill in Westminster in 2007 to prohibit deliberate deception by politicians, and I sometimes feel as if I will be discussing it all my life. I've discussed it…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 16: Abolition of the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd (Amendment 6)
Yes, please.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 16: Abolition of the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd (Amendment 6)
Yes, I'm grateful for the response. And I think it was intended as a probing amendment, so I don't intend pressing the matter at this stage. But I think it would be good to continue the discussions, and maybe get some cross-party agreement as to how we could…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 16: Abolition of the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd (Amendment 6)
'The Panel works with lean administrative support and performs well with a modest budget. However, it is stretched to carry out its tasks, and 12 days a year are insufficient for Panel Members to carry out their role. It does not have the necessary technical…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 16: Abolition of the Independent Remuneration Board of the Senedd (Amendment 6)
Thank you very much, Chair. We have an opportunity here to start a debate on the possibilities arising from the abolition of the Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales and the transfer of its principal functions to the commission to reform the corresponding…
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 15: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru - membership (Amendments 46, 41, 42)
Not moved.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 15: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru - membership (Amendments 46, 41, 42)
Not moved.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 14: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru – functions relating to remuneration of elected Members (Amendments 40, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97)
Not moved.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 14: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru – functions relating to remuneration of elected Members (Amendments 40, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97)
Moved.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 14: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru – functions relating to remuneration of elected Members (Amendments 40, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97)
Moved.
, Local Government and Housing Committee
Group 14: Democracy and Boundary Commission Cymru – functions relating to remuneration of elected Members (Amendments 40, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97)
Moved.