9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 9
Okay, thank you. Mary, I could see you nodding along at points there. Anything to add? No. Nothing to add. Fab. In terms of the reporting requirements for Welsh Ministers relating to support, are these deemed appropriate—for example, the annual report on…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 9
Thank you, Chair. Good morning, both. To start with you, Ludivine, can I ask where do the proposals within the Bill and the sustainable farming scheme fit within the requirements of the UK-EU trade and co-operation agreement, the TCA?
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Okay. Thank you. I'm conscious of time, so, Chair, I'm going to hand back to you. Diolch.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Thank you. Ian.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Yes, of course. So, the ban on glue traps wasn't in the initial proposals of the Bill's White Paper, so I'm looking for your views on the stakeholder engagement that's been conducted by Welsh Government in the development of the Bill.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Excellent. And just to stick with you, John, I note that the ban on glue traps wasn't in the proposal in the Bill's White Paper, so just looking for your views on the stakeholder engagement process behind the agricultural Bill's development.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Okay, thank you. John, anything to add?
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Okay. Thank you. And then, in terms of glue traps, unintended consequences. Ian.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Okay. Excellent. Rachel.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Excellent. That's really helpful. So, in terms of if a prohibition of all types of snares, humane cable restraints and glue traps came in, what we would see as—and we've touched on it individually—what would be the unintended consequences of that ban? We'll…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
So, that's my—. That's the point that I want to clarify, is that Welsh Government are currently—Welsh Government with its arm's-length bodies are currently—using humane cable restraints in species restoration projects, so it would feel natural that that…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And Glynn, just on the point that you mentioned earlier in terms of curlew restoration projects—this is something I mentioned to the previous panel—Welsh Government, NRW, are involved in these restoration projects. They're currently using humane cable…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Diolch, Cadeirydd. Good morning, panel. I always want to try and find consensus, and, having listened to both panels so far, I think there is consensus to be found in what Rachel, I think, you mentioned, as the old type of snare and what the previous panel…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Chair.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Collin, anything to add?
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
In that instance there, though, a badger is a protected species, so that individual is breaking the law anyway, and what law was there already didn't prevent that individual breaking the law. So, coming on to snares, or continuing the discussion around…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Excellent. Thank you. Moving on to evidence submitted by the Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust that the banning of snares could put priority species—those under section 7 of the Environment (Wales) Act 2016—at risk, and given the fact that Welsh…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Excellent. Thank you. Moving on—. Oh, sorry, Collin, I beg your pardon.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
David, anything to add?
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
So, wouldn't that contravene this definition?
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Noted. Thank you very much. Just coming back to, Simon, what you mentioned previously on a snare definition, if I may—you mentioned any wire or other loop designed to catch an animal by its neck, foot, or any other part of its body. Doesn't that put RSPCA…
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Okay. Thank you, Simon. Collin.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Okay, thank you. Simon.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Okay, thank you. Billie-Jade.
9 Tachwedd 2022 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Amaethyddiaeth (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Diolch, Cadeirydd. Good morning, panel. Just moving on to the calls from pest control bodies for an exemption for professional pest controllers, allowing them to continue to use glue traps specifically, not snares, under a licence—David, I'll start with you.
