13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Na. Dyna'r union reswm roeddwn i'n gofyn y cwestiwn, ynglŷn â'r accountability yna ynglŷn â'r pwyllgorau yma'n dod at ei gilydd. Oes yna gyfle gyda chi yn y gogledd—? Os oes dewis sydd yn mynd yn erbyn beth rŷch chi'n moyn yn eich ardal chi, beth sy'n digwydd…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Dyfrig, yr un cwestiynau i chi, os galla i.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Okay.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
But then there are opportunities as well where you use your executive power as leader to go forward and enact decisions, just as the leader of Pembrokeshire County Council.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Councillor Simpson, coming back to you, when you sit as a council leader on the CJC, are you representing the executive power of the cabinet, or the council itself? So, do you take forward a council decision, or do you take forward a cabinet decision when you…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Ocê. Diolch yn fawr, Dyfrig.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Roeddwn i'n mynd i ofyn yn glou: a ydy'r pwyllgorau yma wedi helpu gwaith Uchelgais Gogledd Cymru, neu oedd y gwaith yn gallu cario ymlaen heb gael y CJCs?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Allaf i—?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Dyfrig, a allaf ofyn yr un cwestiwn i chi, os gwelwch yn dda? Beth yw'r sefyllfa ynglŷn â CJCs ac Uchelgais Gogledd Cymru?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
That's helpful, thank you.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
What would you base that on? Is that on the number of local authorities who participate in the CJC and the region, or any other factor? Because in the previous panel, we had Ceredigion and Powys, who are only two local authorities, and the Cardiff region…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Are you talking about taking the governance of the city deal and putting it under the CJC, instead of having two operating models?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Ddinesig Bae Abertawe a Bargen Twf Gogledd Cymru
Diolch, Cadeirydd. Starting with the Swansea bay city deal, as you're in the area, I want to talk about the CJCs—the corporate joint committees. What's the establishment of the CJC and its current position with regard to this deal and the CJC? I'm not sure if…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Thank you, Chair.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Okay. Thank you, Kellie. That was really helpful. I'm conscious of time, so I'm handing back.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Okay. On that point, then, the element that I'm trying to get at, and I understand that you're not the politician in this, is the level of accountability in the decision-making process. You described it as being a company director. Well, company directors are…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
So, both council and cabinet are empowering them. So, there is: the council agree, then the cabinet and then—. Or is it a cabinet executive decision?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Kellie, I know you're not a politician in the sense of a council leader, but what's the mechanism within the Cardiff bay city deal region in terms of decision making around the CJC and the executive power a leader has? What's the mechanism there?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
So, at the moment, it's basically, because you've not had to do it, it's still, some of it, a process to be found out.
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Yes, that's the point. Is there a meeting, a full council meeting where the sort of decision is made and ratified through a vote and then the leader goes forward to discuss it, or does the leader take delegated powers to go, 'I think this is the best way…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
And I'll let both of you look to each other to see who will answer first. [Laughter.]
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
So, I can take from your answer there, Kellie, and the written evidence as well from the Cardiff capital region, and the evidence from Powys and Ceredigion as well, that you're actually in two different locations, given the demographics and the locations of…
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Yes, okay. Helpful. Kellie, to move to yourself and Cardiff and the CJCs there, what's your take on the current setup of CJCs and the deal, the city deal itself?
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
I could see, when James raised that question, both of you nodded along there—
13 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bargen Twf Canolbarth Cymru a Bargen Ddinesig Prifddinas-Ranbarth Caerdydd
Okay.
