8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Before I bring Elfed in for another question, the envelope there for that project fund is £2 million, and to say whether it's capital or revenue, there are different arguments. Is it reasonable to continue seeking that amount when part of the current plans in…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay, thanks. Anything else, Ben?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay, thanks. And if they're not recruited, that money goes back into the Welsh consolidated fund, I guess. Yes. Ben.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Can I just try to make that point really clear? I think in the report, if I remember rightly, you said there were an extra 75 staff to handle the changes in Senedd reform. I think eight staff have yet to be recruited because we're awaiting that decision from…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Thank you. I appreciate that. The challenge we have, I suppose, is that there's an ask in this budget today. It is a bit of a chicken-and-egg—I appreciate that—because there has to be a funding envelope to start making some decisions. How we consider that as…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I guess it comes to the point—. The Finance Committee consideration is the numbers behind this. So, it's the value of the asset at the end of the 50 years, and the value of an asset that is only 50 years old versus the value of an asset that is considered, on…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
But that's the point, sorry. That's the point—it looks like a new building, but the actual structure itself is not.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Cai, is there anything else you want to take up on those points at all? No. I guess on that broader point, then—and I'm sure you've considered this fully as a Commission—the difference between a refurb and a new build, of course, is that in 50 years'…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Do you want to pick up any points on that, Huw, in particular, before I bring Cai in? Cai.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Thanks. Huw.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Huw.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Thanks for that.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We can get those details back to the committee, though, yes?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Briefly, Sera, and then—
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sorry, to be really clear on that, you said savings on rent. The rent will still be paid, I assume.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Just briefly.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sera.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Ed, and for everybody, if we could have brevity, because time is going. We've got quite a few questions to get through too, so succinct points would be lovely. Thank you very much.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay, we'll have to look forward to that. I'm sorry, time's really going. Sera, do you want to carry on?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sorry, before we go into some of those broader points, I guess what we're more interested in as a Finance Committee is how you know it's value for money.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay, thank you, Huw. Sera, if we can move on to your question, please.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Huw.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sorry, Cai, go on.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
No, there's the cost of staffing as well.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
No, it's not—