26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Potentially, yes, so there are elements, and as this inquiry has gone on, we've teased out a lot of information. And I think that probably brings us to time, unless you've got something to add in on this.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
There is that element, and obviously with fewer MPs being returned next week from Wales, but at least—. Yes. So, that's a—
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Yes. This afternoon. We'll have that discussion later.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Yes.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Is there a body within the UK currently that could take on that sort of independent arbitration? I'm just thinking either the Office for Budget Responsibility or the National Audit Office, or somebody who could look at the facts and make a decision and that…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Thank you very much. We've touched on it a few times during the session this morning: mediation and arbitration when it comes to resolving disputes. You've talked about different international examples of how this is done. You're very well aware of the Welsh…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
With this committee, in particular, we get reports from FISC; we get a letter, very often, from the Cabinet Secretary once she's been to those meetings, and she gives us a short report. Is there more work that this committee could do in the scrutiny element…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
When the inter-parliamentary forum—. Recently, we went to and held a session in Westminster with some committees there as well, and we had I think it was six or even seven different political parties around the table, sharing information and sharing and…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
You've alluded to one there and we've set up between ourselves, the Finance Committee here, and in Scotland and Northern Ireland now—as that executive finds its feet again—the Interparliamentary Finance Committee Forum. Do you think that that has any merit in…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
There's no grandstanding, I suppose.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Sorry, Peter. In those closed-door meetings, if you like, in your instinct, is that based on those people going into the room already having a relationship, or is it that—? What's the dynamic there? Why do they work?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Peter.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Right, okay. Thank you for that.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
—and it's reviewed then periodically.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
So, it's multi-year, at three or five years—
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Multi-year, because, otherwise, you're constantly doing bureaucracy, basically, rather than actually getting on with what you need to be doing.
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
And—sorry, Mike—in those systems, is it on an annual basis, or do they do them on a—?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
How do they resolve it?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
It's relationship building as well, so you can put things in the rules, but you can also build relationships. I think it was the Cabinet Secretary for finance in Scotland who was saying that building relationships with an ever-changing Chief Secretary to the…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Would you suggest, potentially, either legislating or putting things in place to do that? Is that what you're saying?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Peter, did you want to come in?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Diolch yn fawr. I'll bring Mike Hedges in—. Sorry, Peter, did you want to come in?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Is the system rigged so that the Treasury always wins?
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
Okay. So when it comes to FISC in particular—and obviously we were talking about the financial elements of that, and devolved funding in particular, and we'll come on to some of those things later with my colleagues—some of the evidence that we've received to…
26 Mehefin 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 7
We've had some evidence to this committee when it comes to the FISC element—so the Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee—and that's based on good working relationships between ministers and officials, but it also has been hit with some change of…