23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Lovely. Thank you so much to you both for coming this afternoon. This is the substantive part of our deliberations on this Bill. We've already heard from the Minister in charge. That was in December, but we are now taking evidence and we've got a series of…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
And we'll go online—Linda, do you want to just introduce yourself?
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Gwych, diolch yn fawr. Croeso cynnes.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
So, this is our second evidence session, and we have our first witnesses this afternoon with us. And if I could ask you to introduce yourselves for the record. We'll start in the room.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn tystiolaeth 2
Croeso cynnes yn ôl i'r cyfarfod yma o'r Pwyllgor Cyllid. Mae gennym ni ddwy sesiwn y prynhawn yma ar y Visitor Accommodation (Register and Levy) Etc. (Wales) Bill, a dyma'r ail sesiwn dystiolaeth.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o eitemau 5, 6, ac 9 ac o ddechrau'r cyfarfod ar 30 Ionawr 2025
Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(ix), dwi'n cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o eitemau 5, 6, a 9 ac o ddechrau'r cyfarfod ar 23 Ionawr 2025. Ydy pawb yn gytûn? [Torri ar draws.] 30 Ionawr, sori, ar y 30 Ionawr, i gael y dyddiad yn iawn…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich amser y bore yma.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Diolch yn fawr. Thank you very much for that session this morning—lots for us to digest and a very short time frame for us to come to some conclusions and recommendations in reporting. But thank you for your time this morning; we've gone over slightly, but I…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
I’m very conscious of time; we might run over a little bit, if that’s okay. I just want Mike Hedges to be able to ask a few questions at the end, Cabinet Secretary. I’ll bring Mike in now, and maybe brevity would be excellent in some of these. Diolch, Mike.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Based on the discussions that you've been having, where would the money come from? Is it that you're anticipating, possibly, late consequentials or something else, to be able to find that extra to give a little bit more to those below the average? Is that…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Just on that, with your analysis of what that might cost and where it might come from, have you looked at, if you were to, say, put a floor in at 4.3 per cent, at the average, roughly how much that would cost? Do you have that idea—
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
That's unless you're appointed to those roles, as you have been over the last period, but there we are. [Laughter.] Sam Rowlands.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Certainly, yes.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Thanks for that, Mike. Actually, John, I might just go straight to Sam, if I may, and he might be able to start with that, unless you've got one brief question to come in at the start.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Mike wanted to come in very briefly, and I'm conscious of time, so, your answers are very fascinating, but could we keep them shorter, please? Then, Mike.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Great. That takes us on to health and social care. I think John's got one question, and then we'll move on to Sam.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Okay. Thank you. John.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
And looking at those unintended consequences that have only come to light after a few years.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Just on that point, broader than children’s services, just in general as a Government, how often do you review the, effectively, rules that you put in place to drive the right behaviour? How often do you look at the behaviour you’re trying to do and then…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
It was in the context of social services and health, the interplay between the two, as well, so, potentially—
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
We'll go back to—I know he's not in this committee as it—the Chair of local government and housing there. But, John Griffiths, you might have a view yourself on this, but we'll move on. Time is marching on with us as well, but maybe—. I'll come back to John…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
I think, from memory, with the IFS, it was not the 80 per cent that they were talking about, but the 20 per cent of the properties that were then becoming second homes, as opposed to primary homes, for people. It was that aspect that was—it goes back to the…
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
I think Mike Hedges might want to come in just on that point, if I may bring Mike in.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Thank you. Good question there. That's something I'd echo as well. I'll now bring John Griffiths in, if I may, and I think he's going to talk about some of the tax and economic forecasts. John.
23 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Cyllideb Ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2025-26: Sesiwn tystiolaeth 8
Certainly, yes.
