14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i wahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod
Members, I propose that, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(ix), the committee resolves to meet in private for the remainder of today’s meeting. Are Members content? I see that Members are content, so I’d be grateful if we could go into private session.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay, thank you. In which case—. Yes, witnesses, you’re free to go if you wish.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Oh, I’m sorry. Before I do that, then, Rhianon Passmore.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Members, I propose that, in accordance with Standing Order—
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. You’ll probably be pleased to hear that brings our questions to a conclusion. We’re only two minutes over. We’ve actually got through them all, which is not something we always manage to achieve. So, thanks to you both. A transcript of today’s…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
And do you believe that might add value?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
And finally, to what extent, if at all, could a new information sharing protocol on pre-appointment hearings between the Senedd and the Welsh Government be beneficial?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
We’ve reached the witching hour. I’ve got a couple of very short questions to finish with, and then we can release you. What are your views on the purpose and role of pre-appointment hearings undertaken by the Senedd, and what is the public bodies unit’s role…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
As I recall, when we met the commissioner in Scotland, his view and that of his team was that that earlier role of oversight in the process actually addressed some of the points that Members have been raising with you today, not as a criticism, in his role…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Do you have any—?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Developing that from the meeting we had with the commissioner in Scotland, he told us that his roles and powers provided more oversight earlier on in the appointments process, whereas the commissioner for England and Wales only has powers to review the…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. We recently met with the Ethical Standards Commissioner for Scotland, who also serves as their public appointments commissioner for Scotland. How, if at all, do you compare the oversight provided by the commissioner for England and Wales to the…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay, thank you.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Do you know, you might not, but would the reserved powers model we currently have permit a Welsh Government to make such a decision, to introduce a commissioner for Wales, or not?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
So, in terms of your role, this isn't an issue that's crossed your radar.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
What, if any, consideration has been given to the appointment of a commissioner for public appointments for Wales?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Moving on to a different theme, how does the relationship between the Welsh Government and the Commissioner for Public Appointments operate in practice?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you very much indeed. Just going back on that, as you indicate, it's the role of individual bodies to provide ongoing support to public appointees. What, if any, ongoing support do you provide to those individual bodies to enable them to do that?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Adam Price.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay. Natasha Asghar.
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Can I just come in with a supplementary on the questions Adam Price asked about reasonable adjustments in recruitment processes, and so on? I think Mr Moss made reference to looking at the social model of disability, which states that people are not disabled…
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Can I bring in Adam Price, please?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Mike, did that answer your questions? Okay. Thank you very much. Can I bring in Natasha Asghar?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Okay, thank you very much indeed. Mike Hedges, could you come back in again, please?
14 Rhagfyr 2023 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Penodiadau cyhoeddus: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Llywodraeth Cymru
Thank you. Rhianon Passmore.
