28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
And in terms of the national grid as well, good connections will be very important.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
Yes, no doubt.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
Diolch, Cadeirydd. If I can just look at the energy side of stuff now, because, obviously, moving to green steel and decarbonisation methods tend to swallow a lot of electricity. With some of those low-carbon approaches now, like electric arc furnaces, are…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
I don't disagree on that point at all, in terms of using scrap steel more efficiently in the country. But again—I won't labour the point, Chair; I am conscious there are other questions—I think this whole argument around not being commercially viable is just…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
What I'm saying is that statement, I think, speaks to a lack of ambition. We talk about, again, words like 'not commercially viable' when we talk about hydrogen. We all know that, in the early stages of technology, none of it is commercially viable, but the…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
I don't think I've suggested that.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
But we know, of course, getting to net zero is going to be a substantial task and require a lot of investment.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
But wouldn't you say that that statement speaks to a potential lack of ambition for green steel more generally, if it's looking to offer the lowest amount possible?
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
The Secretary of State for Business and Trade's official told the Business and Trade Committee that the UK Government 'were trying to do the smallest number that they'— being Tata— 'would accept but would also mean that the business would be sustainable into…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
But then, at some point in the future, we'd have already missed the boat then, wouldn't we?
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
Well, there's no doubt, obviously, that hydrogen steel would be more expensive at the moment, but investment in it can make it cheaper. We've seen KfW, the German development bank, they invested heavily in hydrogen I think it might have been about 12 years…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Dyfodol Dur yng Nghymru
Yes. You've already predicted some of my questions there. I'm particularly keen to understand what considerations were given to alternative technologies. Electric arc furnaces, we've heard time and time again now, don't produce the greatest steel that we…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Great. Jason, final word.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Barry.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
We had data in the last one—
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
So, if we want to fully deliver the young person's guarantee, we're going to have to address some of those challenges, aren't we? So, if I was to turn around to you now and say, 'Here's a blank cheque', what's the priority challenge that you'd want addressed?
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Do you think that the schemes are effectively doing that at the moment?
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Diolch, Cadeirydd. So, in terms of the schemes under that umbrella of the young person's guarantee, how effective would you say they are at meeting some of those workforce demands? So, filling some of those gaps in certain sectors or addressing some of the…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Okay, great. Diolch.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
I agree on the data point as well. I think that's vital to get right. So, I think, based on some of the stuff that has been said there around the programmes being well equipped to reach some of those harder-to-reach students, that you would say, by and large…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Okay. Did Jason want to come in at all?
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
So, to pick up on that, then, in terms of—. I take the point as well, I think it's more about the programmes under that umbrella of the young person's guarantee, but, thinking about those students that are harder to reach, those from low-income backgrounds…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Diolch, Cadeirydd. I'd like to understand where you think young people are with the young person's guarantee.
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 2
Yes, just more of a point for clarity, maybe. Maybe a bit of a silly question on my part, but you mentioned the increasing number of full-time students and Jobs Growth Wales students; those figures wouldn't reflect attendance, though, would they? That would…
28 Medi 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Pwysau costau byw a’r Warant i Bobl Ifanc - Panel 1
Great. Diolch.
