29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
It has been an ongoing process for some small while, and then, the TAN will come into force as the Bill goes through. It's not, I don't think, predicated on the Bill, but the Bill will help us put a legislative underpinning to it.
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
No, the TAN consultation is live—. I think it might have finished—forgive me, I'll have to write back to the committee on that as I haven't got it in front of me, unless one of the officials knows, but we've certainly been in the consultation until very…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Because there are some designs that limit that. So, I'm saying that people get used to stuff. I'm not saying they should have to get used to it, right? So, you can design a housing estate next to a motorway, for example, that is configured in the right way…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Yes, so that’s part of what the TAN 11 consultation has been about, Huw—how do we implement this in a very practical way? And, how do we get developments that are—? Well, we’ve talked about it all the time, haven’t we? We talk about all the time place…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Yes. So, it's a very good point, Delyth, and, again, if the committee has any ideas about public engagement, I'm more than happy to look at them. We know that the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health and the Institute of Acoustics are all people who…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Thank you, Delyth. We hadn't developed the proposal at the time that we went out for the White Paper, but as the work proceeded on the Bill, provisions relating to the national air quality strategy and the recent consultation we've done on the new technical…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Well, we've been discussing with the Welsh Local Government Association, Joyce, and actually, it's very interesting, because they want a very large range of penalties. They want a lower penalty as well. So, if they're handing out £5 penalties all the time to…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
So, it's just an indicative range, Janet. We've said that there will be consultation on the monetary range to be included, and we'll do that. If stakeholders have views on the illustrative amounts, as we go through the process, we're very happy to change…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Hopefully, if we make the regulations effective, they'll see fit to use them.
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Yes, very much so, and as I say, that's a little bit chicken and egg, if you don't mind my saying so, because we're saying the regulations aren't effective and then criticising the local authority for trying to use ineffective regulations.
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Yes. So, the regulations will allow the local authorities to authorise whoever they see fit to take this action. And that might well be the parking enforcement officers, it might be environmental health, it could be anybody that they think is appropriate for…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Well, for exactly that reason, Jenny: it's not having the deterrent effect. So, the Bill will do two things. It will put a duty on people to be given advice very firmly about it. We will work with the schools and other places where vulnerable people are—so…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
So, Jenny, I can't give you an absolute timescale, but the CJCs are under a duty to produce both strategic planning and strategic transport plans for their area. We're just working with them in order to get them to do that; they've just been established last…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Sure, Huw. Our current plan is to publish a framework against which the local authorities need to test their own plans for any potential road charging scheme, and as I say, the framework will include such things as not only advantaging their own residents and…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
There's definitely synchronicity. We are discussing with various local authorities in Wales whether or not they have any plans. But before a local charging scheme can proceed, we've got to have detailed regulations made under the Transport Act 2000. I'm sure…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
So, it's not hypothecated; you're quite right, Huw. It's not narrowly hypothecated. We always wanted to get away from the restriction that requires net proceeds to be used only for transport policies and proposals, because clean air is wider than transport…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Well, I don't know yet, Janet, but I'm absolutely certain that we would be consulting with people such as yourself about the best way to get the best consultation response. That's the point of consultation—it's to get the best response possible, isn't it?
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
If we were going to propose a road charging scheme in any area of Wales, we would be consulting with the interest groups—so, obviously, the local authorities and the councils in that area. We'd also be doing a public consultation and a stakeholder…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Thank you, Janet. Consultation and engagement are absolutely essential if we want the policy to be effective, and I'm totally committed to undertaking full public consultation on any future proposals to utilise the new powers under the scheme. The road user…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Thank you, Huw. I know it does seem counterintuitive that we're taking powers to do something we're not planning to do. But it's because we want to futureproof this Bill; we don't want to have to come back with more primary legislation in circumstances where…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
What we'll be doing is working with each local authority to make sure that what we're looking at is proportionate and the education piece is present. The Bill introduces the requirement for local authorities to have regard to any guidance published by Welsh…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Yes, certainly, Joyce. As you know, we went out to a White Paper consultation, and the responses from the consultation were very mixed indeed and suggested that a lot more work is required before we legislate on outdoor burning, even within smoke control…
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Sadly not, I should say. It doesn't smell of coffee.
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Indeed. And just to re-emphasise the point, we are putting the enforcement regime in place—it absolutely is a backstop and some people require it, but most people won't and I think that's what we're aiming for.
29 Mawrth 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru) - tystiolaeth gan y Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd: rhan 2
Thank you, Huw. It's a combination of things, isn't it? It is to do with the evidence coming from the local authorities about the difficulty of using the current regime, which is clear and obvious, I think—it's almost common sense that it's not effective…
