4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Fine, although it is our experience as Members that good practice doesn't travel easily—this is across all public services. So, I think, just looking at how we're going to strengthen the governance of these bodies, you've suggested that it might lead to a…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Okay. Thanks very much. We will be taking evidence at a later date from the Welsh audit office, so we will be able to ascertain just how in-depth their reviews are of the efficiency and effectiveness of the services. I am interested in the role played by the…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Sorry, could you repeat that, Joel, because I—
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Thank you, Ken. Fine. We'll move on now to Joel James.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Fine. Ken Skates, did you have any further questions?
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
And Jane Dodds, you wanted to come in.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Thank you. Can we move on now to bring in Ken Skates? I can't see him on my screen at the moment. There you are.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Thank you. Jane Dodds.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Okay. Can I just clarify: did you have discussions about the culture within the Welsh fire services prior to the ITV programme and the cultural review?
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Who'd like to go first?
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Thank you. Moving on, Sioned Williams.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 3
Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. We're going to continue with our fourth session of our governance of fire and rescue services investigation. I'm very pleased to welcome Tristan Ashby, chief executive officer of the Fire and Rescue…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you very much indeed, and thank you very much for your presence today and for your evidence. We'll send you a transcript, and please do make sure that we've captured your information correctly. Thank you very much for your time today. The committee will…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
We'd be pleased to receive some written evidence from the forum, if you so wish. Could I also ask that you take back to your organisation a little bit of the history, which I appreciate you don't feel able to respond to, because presumably you weren't in post…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Okay. So, I presume you have discussions with your opposite numbers in north Wales fire and rescue services, as well as mid and west Wales. So, I just wondered what further actions, if any, you'd like to see the Welsh Government take, either in relation to…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you. The Deputy Minister has said the commissioners will remain until the work is finished in the south Wales fire and rescue area. What, in your view, does a finished job look like?
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Clearly, very large organisations and a very important role to play in public services in Wales, but, in the fire and rescue services, you're probably a minority representation compared with, I would imagine, the FBU. So, how much collaboration is there…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Okay, you are representing local authority members. Okay, sorry. I won't pursue that. I'll rephrase the question, then. We heard from the FBU that they've got a policy 'all different, all equal', which obviously is endeavouring to deal with the significant…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Having listened to the evidence from you and also from your counterparts in the FBU this afternoon, I would have thought simply rectifying, obviously, the very disturbing issues raised in the culture review and enabling staff to have confidence that if they…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you. Thank you very much for your remarks so far. I have a couple of things. Obviously, you're a very large trade union and you cover most of the public sector in Wales, so I'm keen to just follow up a little bit on the potential future relationship…
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you. Joel James.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
I think we're all having problems with the sound. Ken, could you repeat yourself, please?
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you. Ken Skates.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Thank you. Jane Dodds.
4 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethu’r Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 2
Okay, briefly.