11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
I think they definitely will be in the future. Ken Skates.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Okay. Councillor Bradwick.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Ken Skates. Sorry—Roger Thomas wanted to come in.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Thank you. Ken Skates.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
I think Dylan Rees wanted to add something.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Dawn Docx is indicating.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Very fair comment. Can I bring in Ken Skates at this point, to discuss the role the Welsh Government might play in this regard?
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Yes. Well, I'm talking about that the UK Government's obviously looking at the arrangements in England, and we have a different landscape, because police is not currently devolved, so therefore it's difficult to see how we could amalgamate the governance of…
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Thank you for that. I can't see any other persons who want to talk about that any further. So, the UK Government has recently reported on its consultation into fire reforms. What lessons, if any, are there for the Welsh Government to learn from the experience…
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Thank you. Roger Thomas.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
That's okay, but I just want to remind us we have at least £1 billion less in the Welsh Government's budget in this coming year than last year, so the idea that there is suddenly this magic pot of money that we can call on is difficult to see. Dylan Rees.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Okay.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Okay. So nothing will change unless there's more money.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Elaborate on what you meant when you said, 'It'll come down to money': is that having a more cost-effective service, or is it somebody having to provide more money?
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Fine. Moving on, I just want to bring us back to the Audit Wales review of the governance arrangements, which we heard, earlier this afternoon, are not likely to be published before the summer. I'm particularly keen to pursue what issues would need to be…
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Okay. Sarah Murphy.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Thank you for that. Councillor Bradwick, clearly, the culture review indicates that there are some pretty serious issues that have been experienced by the south Wales service, and you have submitted yourselves to the spotlight by Fenella Morris and her team…
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Dylan Rees, did you want to come in at all?
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
I think I'd like to turn the question around a little, which is the role of the authority. Because the chief officers can't promote people unless they're equipped to do that job, but the role of the authority is to bring the wider governance role. So, I…
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Okay. Sarah Murphy.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
I think it's authority members, yes.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Anybody got anything further to add?
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Fine. Dewi Rose. You don't need to unmute. Yes, go ahead.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
No, obviously. Roger Thomas.
11 Mawrth 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Llywodraethiant Gwasanaethau Tân ac Achub: panel 6
Sioned Williams, and then we'll come back to you.