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Okay. Fine. Well, we hope that this inquiry will assist you. So, thank you very much indeed for your evidence. We'll send you a transcript and, obviously, if there's anything that we've misinterpreted, please come back to us. Thank you very much indeed for…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay, that's grand. I just want to ask, finally: we heard from Professor Debbie Foster last week a sense of frustration at the slow pace of change, and I appreciate that you can't tell us what's in a report that hasn't yet been published, but given that you…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Mick Antoniw.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Thank you. That's very helpful. So, can I pass on to Julie Morgan?
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Mick, did you have your hand up or were you stretching your hand? I think he didn't have his hand up, so back to you, Joel.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. Very good. We'll move on to Joel James.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. We're starting to run out of time. So, Mick, short question, and short answers, please.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Sioned, have you got any further questions?
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Thank you. I'm going to go back to Sioned Williams.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Very good. Sioned, I'll come back to you, but Mick Antoniw just wanted to come in.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Very good. Can I now bring in Sioned Williams?
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Jane, did you have any further questions? If not, I'm going to go to Sioned.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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And Mick Antoniw, you wanted to come in.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Obviously, it was one of the main drivers of the 'Locked Out' report, which Jane Dodds is now going to ask you some questions about.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. There was one specific point in your paper that highlights the widening disability gap and insecure employment rates during the pandemic, which only happened in Wales, not in England and Scotland. Are you able to provide any insight into why that…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. Is it also to do with the sector being weaker? Because it was pointed out in our earlier session last week that the LGBTQ+ campaigners have developed a kitemark for employers as to who is a good employer to go to, whereas there isn't one that we're…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. But you say that it would make for better data with the public sector. So, why are they not complying? Surely they should be already adhering to best practices, given their remit.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. You say 'the public sector'—what about the private sector?
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Welcome back to the Equality and Social Justice Committee. Our next evidence session is with Ruth Coombs, the head of the Wales Equality and Human Rights Commission, and Martyn Jones, the interim chair of the Wales committee for the Equality and Human Rights…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. Thank you. Apologies, Jane—I couldn't see you behind a technical message. So, thank you very much indeed. The committee will now take a short break, and resume our next session at 2.45 p.m.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Very good. We'll send you a transcript of this interview, and please do correct it if there's anything that's—[Interruption.] Julie, you wanted to—. No, Jane, I'm sorry. I beg your pardon. I can't actually see you. [Laughter.] I can now.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. Very good. So, obviously, we'd be keen to hear what input you've had into improving the data around the inequalities suffered by people with disabilities in employment.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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I wonder whether you're aware there's also something called the workplace rights and responsibilities forum, which I think is more recent, and the workforce partnership council, which arises out of the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Act…
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay. Thank you very much. So, you're going to come back and tell us whether the FSB is involved in the disability rights taskforce.
7 Hydref 2024 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
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Okay, because equally, in the EHRC report, they highlight a widening disability gap in insecure employment rates during the pandemic, which was unique to Wales, not seen in England or Scotland. So, if the FSB had any insight into why that was, that would be…
