27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papurau i’w nodi
We've now got papers to note. We've got five pieces of correspondence to note. Are Members content to note them, or is anybody wishing to raise something on that point? I can't see anybody.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Excellent. We will, of course, send you a transcript for you to correct if we've managed to record you wrong. Thank you very much indeed for your time.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Great. Thank you very much, both of you, for your attendance, and for your officials as well. We will write to you about some detail on the type of help that's being provided by the new Nest scheme, because we obviously didn't have time for that. And we'll…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay, very lastly, Jane Dodds. A quick question.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Yes. Excellent. Sioned Williams.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. Sioned.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. So, I’ll come to Sioned Williams in a moment, but while we’re sticking with joined-up policy, there was a very interesting statement from the Minister for Mental Health and Well-being on 2 December, which highlighted the work being done by Cwm Taf…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you. Can I move over to Jane Dodds now?
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Go ahead.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
We'll move on now to Mick Antoniw, which may help elucidate this further.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you. Sioned wants to come in and then I'll move over to Mick Antoniw.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. Just to follow up, the consultation that you're launching next month, will that be around the distance of the heat pumps from the next door neighbour, or will it be changing the process by which people can install them? I appreciate it's a consultation…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you. Over to Julie Morgan.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. So, just picking up on Altaf's second question, when do you think part 2 of the Warm Homes programme is likely to commence?
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
So, you're arguing that the process of what we've done with 1,500 households is going to be applicable to whether or not we have a new area-based scheme. I'm struggling to understand that.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Could I just ask Jayne Bryant why is it not possible to run those two concepts concurrently? Why is it not possible for one lot of people to review the current Nest scheme and another to make progress on developing new area-based schemes, like for blocks of…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you for that clarification. Altaf Hussain.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
I’ll just bring in Sioned Williams, before I go back to Altaf.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Altaf, I'm just going to bring in Jane Dodds and I'll come back to you.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you. Back to Altaf.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Absolutely. So, we're going to reach those targets we set ourselves in 2035.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Altaf, if I can just come in, do you recognise, though, what the Bevan Foundation is saying—that it's going to be 2160, 125 years hence, before we actually get on top of this problem? Do you agree that that is just far too slow?
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay, Sioned? Excellent. Altaf Hussain.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. I'll pass over to Sioned Williams at this point and maybe come back to this.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Okay. So, I wonder if I could just ask Jayne Bryant how you're going to reach the target the Government's set itself for 2035, whereby no more than 5 per cent of households are living in fuel poverty, when we're told, by the experts, that it's 45 per cent of…
