27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
And there were a couple of things that I agreed to write to the committee on in terms of the consultation. We'll make sure that's done as well.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Can I just finally say—sorry, Chair—that the Warm Homes scheme has helped, over the years, nearly, I think, 200,000 people? I know we hear sometimes about those people who haven't got that help, or are still in need, but we have to take stock about where…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Jane. Like I said, we do want to see that pace as well. I don’t want you to think we don’t want to see that pace. I think it’s important that we work across Government on this issue. I hope that we can reassure you to that extent, that we are trying…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
I don't know if Christine wants to say something more about some of the discussions that you have with officials at local government, if that helps.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Sioned. I think it’s a challenge, isn’t it, making sure that we get that best practice and good practice shared as widely as possible. Obviously, there is a route with the Welsh Local Government Association and how they work with local authorities…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Sorry, Christine.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Absolutely, that Cwm Taf Morgannwg project sounds really exciting, doesn’t it, and interesting, because I think trying to identify—. It’s all about prevention, isn’t it, and that early intervention that we can get, which is what we all really want to see. As…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Jane. As I say, I think the programme is different in the sense that it is focusing on not just the immediate but also making sure that we're decarbonising homes in the future, so it is making sure that Nest, who are advising people, are looking at…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Jane. Obviously, as I said, it's a skills shortage across the UK as well as Wales, but we are, really, with our PAS 2035 standard, as I said, making sure that contractors provide training and support to all those working on that. Obviously, some of…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Jane. Absolutely, and as I was saying earlier, in terms of the skills that we have in Wales, it's finite, really, isn't it, at the moment. There's still a lot to do within that. I think that's one of the good things about this Warm Homes programme…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
I think I'll pass it over to my colleague Jane Hutt.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
We work with the WLGA to bring local authorities together to share that best practice in relation to Warm Homes, Eco Flex and GBIS. It is clear that there are areas of good practice. I'm really keen to see how I can help in that and how we can share that good…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
The Welsh Government doesn't have any formal role in the ECO4 scheme, but we have been made aware of issues with the scheme, and when we have, we've raised that with the relevant UK Government officials. Last week, I had the opportunity to meet with the UK…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you, Mick. We've consulted with the WLGA and local authorities on what support they feel they need, and we've awarded them a further £500,000 for this financial year to redress the remaining barriers. I'm pleased to be able to say that we've been able…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Diolch, Mick. As you said, the Welsh Government allocated £350,000 to local authorities in Wales to enable them to complete a statement of intent on the provision of ECO Flex schemes within their area. I'm pleased to report that every local authority in Wales…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Officials are currently developing a monitoring and evaluation framework for the programme. It will be overseen by and reported to the programme board, with an input from the important fuel poverty advisory group as well. And as with the previous scheme…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
I might have to ask—.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Thank you, Mick. I thank the auditor general again for those recommendations. We have implemented several of those measures to provide assurance and governance under our new Warm Homes Nest programme. I can just say a few of those that might be helpful to the…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
I hear that. All I can do is say what the figures are that we've heard, and what I understand, which Christine has been able to explain as well, that there was that learning happening, and, I think, for British Gas, there was that time, but, as far as I'm…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
And I'm waiting still to get that advice on the extent, but as soon as we do we'll make sure you're aware of that.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
So, from my understanding, there was no gap in that provision. Obviously, I've come in after this process but that's my understanding, and I feel reassured to know that those households were contacted to recontinue with their applications that were able to. I…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
So, I've been assured that there is no gap in the provision between the old scheme and the new scheme. There was a period in which British Gas were in mobilisation for the first six months of the scheme, just ensuring on boarding of contractors to deliver the…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Not the figures that we've—. It's not what we've heard, no; less than 1 per cent.
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Well, it's good to hear that and it will hopefully reassure you that that's what we're getting back as well, but, as I say, it's inevitable there will be some issues in such an early time. So, we'll keep an eye on that and make sure that that is still going…
27 Ionawr 2025 , Equality and Social Justice Committee
Tlodi tanwydd a rhaglen Cartrefi Clyd: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gydag Ysgrifenyddion Cabinet
Yes, absolutely. Obviously, with a programme this size, it's inevitable that there'll be some customers who are unhappy with the service they receive, particularly when we've got a scheme that is in its infancy. But, proportionally, I understand those numbers…
