6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Just to remind ourselves, the primary purpose of this is to make sure we've got as consistent a procurement regime as England, and the problem is that, at the moment, we don't know the detail of what that procurement will look like, and so what we need is…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Dŷn ni ddim yn gwybod ble mae'r rheoliadau'n mynd i fod. Allwn ni ddim ei wneud e cyn ein bod ni'n gwybod ble mae'r rheoliadau'n mynd i landio yn San Steffan. Felly, tan ein bod ni'n gwybod hynny, does dim pwynt ymgynghori tan ein bod ni'n gwybod beth i'w…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
So, y rheoliadau fydd hwnna. Y bobl fydd yn ymateb i'r rheoliadau, felly dyna pryd mae'n bwysig i sicrhau bod busnes yn cael ei lais wedi ei glywed, ar yr adeg honno.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Dwi'n meddwl 12 wythnos, yn arferol.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Dwi ddim yn meddwl, achos rŷn ni wedi rhagweld y fath o bobl fydd yn cael eu cyffwrdd gan y Bil yma, ac rŷn ni wedi ymgynghori gyda nhw yn anffurfiol—felly yn amlwg, mae gwasanaethau’r NHS yn un amlwg, yr undebau, undebau iechyd, y trydydd sector, y cynghorau…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
They're going to get there before us, yes.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
So, the health and care Bill received Royal Assent in April 2022. The PSR—so, the provider selection regime—regulations are going to be laid before Parliament, it's anticipated, fairly soon, and then the regulations on that are expected to come into force in…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Yes, during the course of this—. Yes, so it's likely to be only numbering or something like that.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I hear that, and it is something that we're aware of, but we're fairly confident it's going to land in that place. Dafydd, is that—?
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's not ideal, but we're fairly confident that it will land not far off where we are at the moment. It is getting to its final Stages. Again, what we're anxious to avoid is a long time period where we will not be able to provide the kinds of service…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We are taking a different approach to Scotland. You'll be aware that Scotland is trying to keep as much of their rules alongside the rules of the EU, whereas, actually, we are now going to be moving towards trying to keep a level playing field with England…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think NHS procurement is fairly limited, it's fairly unique. The kind of people who are looking at this will know where to go for that information, and they'll know in future that they'll just go straight to the NHS (Wales) Act and look at what's been…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I'd argue that it's the opposite of that. I would argue that, actually, what's going to happen is if you're interested in procurement in the NHS in future, you just go to the NHS (Wales) Act. That's where you go. You don't have to go to this Bill—it's done…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We did look at it very seriously, but it wasn't possible.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, it's done and dusted. That's the difference. This is going to be, 'Right, we're going to disapply health from the UK Procurement Act.' That's going to be one bit—right, that's done—and then we're going to put a creation power into the NHS Act. That's…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We've explored every avenue, if I'm honest. We found that it didn't sit comfortably with other Bills, and that's why we've taken this route. We did explore that as an option and found that it wouldn't have worked.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, yes, but the outcomes that we're talking about will—. The framework that is within the social partnership Bill is a way of working, whereas what we're talking about is something that will lead to some quite technical changes when it comes to procurement.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
The social partnership and public procurement Bill is mostly about organisational principles, and this is about how you do procurement. So, it's a very different approach. That's the main reason why we're doing that. I don't know, Dafydd, is there anything—?
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
That's right. You're the constitution committee; you know that there are Bills lining up, and to try and sneak a little gap—. This is why this is a very, very short Bill, as you'll be aware. And this is a framework Bill, so the key thing to remember is that…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
The Department of Health and Social Care consulted on their proposals last spring, and, since then, my officials have been spending their time consulting with the NHS, in terms of 'Right, what does this mean for us? What do we need to do? How would any…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
They're certainly not obstructing, no.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, they haven't particularly helped us out on it.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think it's really important to just give a little background in terms of the context, if you don't mind, because it's quite a technical Bill and it can get quite anoraky, so I'm just going to try and translate it into something that is a little bit more…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Yes, it absolutely is, because obviously health is a devolved competence, and this procurement refers to health.
1 Mawrth 2023 , Cyfarfod Llawn
Cwestiynau Amserol
Diolch, Russell. Yn amlwg, rydym bob amser yn awyddus, yn Llywodraeth Lafur Cymru, i weithio mewn partneriaeth gymdeithasol, a byddwn yn awgrymu bod gennym berthynas dda iawn ac adeiladol gyda phob un o’r undebau. Yn amlwg, mae yna adegau pan ydym yn…
