8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Now, that is a good question. 'I don't know' is the answer to that.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We're not on that page at the moment, and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't think we've got any other choice; we're going to have to see this through. So, obviously, we would have to find—. I'm not expecting that cost to be additional…
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's really all about training, isn't it? The main cost is about training, and in the scope of it, we're not talking about a lot of money at all, I don't think.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think the amount of clinical commissioning in local authorities is very, very limited. Just to give you an example, if you wanted to give veterans mental health support, and that very niche advisory service wasn't available in Wales, you might want to…
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's every health board, because they may commission services from England.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
This is informal, but we know who these people are who are going to be impacted. Leanne, is there anyone else we've—?
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We've identified who it is we think will be impacted by this. Obviously, there are people in shared services, there are people in NHS health boards. They're quite easily identifiable, these people. We've also discussed with the trade unions—
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Not all people involved in procurement will need to be trained in this, because, actually, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved in procurement. But this is a very, very specialised kind of procurement. We're talking about clinical services…
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Shall we send that to you?
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We are expecting them to do it within their existing staff, but it's just trying to make sure that there's an understanding that they're going to have to do things differently. If you were to carve out the time, then that's effectively what it would cost.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, I guess nobody knows what the new regime looks like, so we'll have to wait to see what it looks like, and then—. You know, England will only be a few weeks ahead of us, effectively.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I don't think we need additional staffing; it's just a question of training staff who are currently employed in a new system.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
So, I think it's probably worth stating that, actually, that's part of the purpose of this Bill, because, at the moment, you have to go out to tender quite frequently. So, those contracts will come up fairly frequently, and then you have to go through a whole…
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Be seen through.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Leanne.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sure. Absolutely.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
This year. This summer, we hope. That's why we're going at a gallop.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
And, obviously, we won't be able to get this through and get the detail done until maybe spring next year.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
So, we expect them maybe this year.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, it's going through at the moment, so—.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, it depends, because it hasn't finished its route through Westminster yet, and it depends when they come up with a regulatory proposal.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I guess there will be a bit of a gap, so we're just trying to make that gap as short as we can.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Well, I'll just start, and bring Dafydd in. So, obviously, one of the points that we've covered here is the staff costs. So, there will be people involved in procurement who will need to be trained on how this new system works. What we've done is we looked at…
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sure, absolutely.
8 Mawrth 2023 , Finance Committee
Goblygiadau ariannol Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Can I ask Leanne to come in there?
