14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Indeed we do, yes.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
And it's a point of view that I don't agree with and you know why.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
It's a point of view, Alun, and I know it's a point of view you've expressed to me previously—
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
I don't know if we can at this stage, can we? I think that was the point that Marcus was making to Llyr.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
On capital, and that's primarily been on the Celf ar y Cyd project.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
So, that's around about £1.363 million, is it?
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Around February/March next year.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Once we have the full business case for the selected site for the anchor gallery, then we'll have a much better idea of the costs associated with that particular site.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
What we do know is that the costs on the current model that we’re proposing are actually considerably less than were set out in the original feasibility study. There was a very wide range that was set out in that study and we’re very much at the lower end of…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
We don’t know at this stage, no.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
It’s a good question, and it will rely very much on the business cases that we see. We’re really working towards having an anchor gallery that will be viable, that will act—as the name suggests—as the anchor for the other sites, that acts as a kind of…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Well, I’d like to think that that won’t be the case, but I can’t run away from the parlous financial situation that we’re in. What I would say, though, Llyr—and I’ve said this once or twice, but I think it is also relevant in terms of these difficult…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Absolute assurances? We can’t, for the very reasons that you’ve just outlined. All I can say is to repeat what I said in my earlier answer: that the reliance on central revenue funding we anticipate can be reduced. So, inevitably, there will be funding from…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
I do, absolutely—
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
I think I would add as well, Llyr, that, obviously, we've got host galleries in the national museum and the national library, and they will continue to be funded with a grant in aid as normal. This will become part of their normal activities, if you like.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
The outline business case has contained some costs, but the project partners really have agreed that they're going to provide further detail as those projects are developed, and, again, that'll be part of the full business case that we're likely to see in…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Thank you.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
The network of galleries, yes, probably October or November. This autumn.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
The nine proposed galleries within the network are currently developing their plans for submission to the arts council prior to being formally assessed. We expect to have the final list of the dispersed network announced sometime in October or November—so…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
It actually hasn't taken five years for that. The decision to appoint an independent chair was actually only taken in this financial year. There has been a chair of the project. We started with a chair who was a member of the Welsh Government, a Welsh…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Yes, we have seen some capital works, particularly on the Celf ar y Cyd project, the digitisation project, and, of course, there's been some expenditure on the preparation that's been done by the potential gallery sites. But again, Ian or Marcus, I don't know…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
On a personal level, yes, I do. It remains a priority of the Welsh Government and part of our co-operation agreement with Plaid Cymru. I don't think you can overestimate the importance of art and the benefits that they can bring to the general population. We…
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
I think what we do know is that we will have greater floor space, because one of the things that we're projecting is that we will be able to display more of the national collection than the current host galleries are able to display.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
I will ask my officials whether they know the answer to that, if you don't mind. [Laughter.] Marcus.
14 Medi 2023 , Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee
Oriel gelf gyfoes genedlaethol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda’r Gweinidog
Yes, and I don't see—. You see, one of the things I think is interesting about the national contemporary art gallery project is the flexibility that it provides—the flexibility to expand the scope, the flexibility to scale up or down, the flexibility to plug…
