21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Shav Taj.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Thank you very much. Anna Nicholl.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Do you have a follow-up, Alun?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Thank you. Alun Cox.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Thank you very much. Before I pass round to other Members, I've got just one quick question: would it be accurate to say that failure to comply with the statutory planning and break-even regime has now become normalised?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Okay. Right. So, over to you, auditor general.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Okay. Right. And your other two colleagues as well. Sorry.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Briff Archwilio Cymru: Cyfrifon Cyrff y GIG ar gyfer 2025-26
Item 4: Audit Wales briefing on the NHS accounts—a public briefing. Could I invite the Audit Wales officials to introduce themselves for the record, please?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Okay. Members, are we content to note the papers? Duly noted. Thank you.
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Thank you. Do any other Members have any comments on this?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Okay. Do any Members have comments about this report?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Okay, thank you for that. The second paper to note is the 'Financial Reporting Advisory Board Annual Report 2025-26'. So, the advisory board provides us with independent advice on financial reporting. Do you have any comment on this report, auditor general?
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Papurau i'w nodi
Item 3 is to formally note papers. Paper 1, a letter from the Auditor General for Wales to me regarding the audit independence safeguards, from 7 September, just to note that the auditor general is going to be recusing herself from work related to national…
21 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau
Good afternoon, everybody. I'd like to welcome Members to the meeting of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee. I'd also like to welcome the Auditor General for Wales, Catherine Mealing-Jones, to her second meeting of the committee. The…
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog Rhif 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn ac o eitem 1 yn ystod y cyfarfod ar ddydd Llun 21 Medi
For item 4, I propose, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(ix), that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting and for item 1 during the meeting on Monday 21 September. Are the Members content? Yes, everyone is…
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Hopefully, you'll be able to get up to Cathays for your meeting.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Thank you, Cabinet Minister.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Oh, no. Can you give the committee one concrete example of something the Government currently does or a structure it currently funds that you believe should cease or be fundamentally changed?
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Thank you, Cabinet Minister, and I agree—I think we've had a very constructive session with you today and I also very much welcome your commitment to return regularly to this committee. I'm sure that we'll have further discussions. One final question from me.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Anna.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Thank you. Do any Members have anything additional they wish to add? Alun Cox.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Cabinet Minister, on 8 June, you laid before the Senedd the legislative consent memorandum on the Public Office (Accountability) Bill. The Business Committee referred this to this committee and the Legislation Committee for scrutiny. What's the Cabinet…
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Andrew.
14 Medi 2026 , Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee
Sesiwn dystiolaeth ragarweiniol gyda’r Gweinidog Cabinet dros Effeithiolrwydd Llywodraeth a’r Cyfansoddiad
Thank you, Cabinet Minister. You're responsible for reviewing Wales's COVID response. I understand that work has previously been undertaken in this area, including by the UK Government's inquiry, and the work undertaken by our predecessor committee in the…
